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Monthly Archives: January 2015

A new way forward?

23 Friday Jan 2015

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Liz. Invisalign Day 31. Well trays still out so very disappointing and I still have a sore throat but hopefully the last of a cough. The good news in that my Dentist has come back to say that Invisalign will send 3 new sets of trays treated “in a different way” – there is no more information than that available so no ways of knowing what chemicals they are using in this treatment for future reference.  They release no information on their website either. Neither my dentist or I know if it was the trays or the use of retainer brite that triggered the sore throat or cough but I think it a strong possibility knowing my level of sensitivity to products. So I am now playing a waiting game for new aligners to arrive and throat to settle down.  Part of me wants to get on with the treatment but I also dread the thought of the trays in my mouth again after it feeling so unpleasant recently. So far no progress – argghhhhhh! Not even a score on the board yet.

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No teeth or tennis today or a very healthy competition…..

18 Sunday Jan 2015

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Liz. Invisalign still out. Day 26.  Coughed through the night and left exhausted so no teeth or tennis for me today. I did however meet the tennis girls for lunch and review our teeth progress, at the moment we are quite obsessive on our subject. I am feeling quite demoralized when I see the excellent progress being made around me and I am getting nowhere.  I am wondering if this is allergy, sensitivity or infection or a combination of them all.  I am seriously wondering if I could stomach lingual braces, and what the duration of that would be compared to Invisalign. Hopefully tomorrow my dentist will have had a response back from America. My doctor said to go and see her if no improvement by tomorrow and so I may go and see what she thinks.

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Invisalign – It does what it says it does on the tin – well almost.

17 Saturday Jan 2015

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Janice – Invisalign.

22 months in and I should have been finished in 16 months.

And if I wasn’t so damned particular and wanted all of my teeth straightened I would probably have been finished in the 16 months original quoted.

But having spent 3 years researching, having consultations, considering and generally procrastinating, I am that difficult patient that actually wants all of my teeth straightened and not just most of them.

I should say at this point that most of what has been promised has been delivered, painlessly and effortlessly.   All the problems I had read about with Invisalign; mostly pain and difficulty in removing the aligners haven’t been my experience at all.   The bulk buying of pain killers before I started wasn’t necessary,  not even a twinge of pain at any time, just the mildest of sensitivity on a few of the teeth a few times.  Nothing  to complain about at all.  The aligners  go in and come out easily, the special Invisalign ‘Outies’ I bought on-line to help you to remove them have not been used.

The results overall  are amazing.  Over bite, under bite, open bite all corrected and now I have the perfect bite.  All teeth (bar one) are lined up like soldiers and apart from the obvious aesthetic improvement my mouth feels a lot more comfortable than it did before.

The problem for me is just one tooth, centre front at the bottom,  which was set back from the rest due to overcrowding.  It is still not perfectly aligned despite three re-moulds and three  completely new sets of aligners over 22 months just because of this one problem.

There simply was not enough space for all my teeth on the bottom.  I addressed this point with the dentist right at the beginning and was assured that Invisalign could manage this with some filing down to create the much needed space.

Filing down was done but after 8 months the first batch of braces started failing to move the one tooth, the offending  tooth beat the aligner.

So more moulds were taken and 4 weeks down the line the first set of  what  Invisalign call ‘Refinements’ arrived.  I was confident that they would have addressed the problem with this new set.  After all you can’t expect them to get everything completely right first go, can you?

More filing down was done and off I went having mentally calculated the all important end date after another 18 aligners.

Another five   months down the line and there was the same problem.  There was no more space for the same tooth to move.

So back to the dentist  for more new moulds to be taken.  Negotiating  with the dentist on the simple need for more space to be created by more filing down resulted in blank stares and silence.

Which brings me to the next problem with  Invisalign.  Your dentist has no input into your treatment.  They just supply the aligners , put the attachments on when they are told to and do exactly the amount of fling down they are told to.  If Invisalign doesn’t say to do any more filing, your dentist will not be doing any, irrespective of obvious need.

Any attempt at discussing or reasoning is futile.  You are dealing with a computer in California which doesn’t respond to questions.  It is a one way street of communication.  Invisalign tells you what will be and you don’t question.  Unfortunately that is an approach that has never quite worked for me.

‘Refinement’ set number 2 inevitably failed for the same reason so here I am after 22 months with ‘Refinement’ set number 3 of aligners all because of one single tooth.  Another six months of 19 aligners which will make it 2 years and 4 months, a whole year more than I was original quoted.  And that is if they actually work this time.  Fourth time lucky?    Maybe, but  I’m not holding my breath.

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Taking it easy……

17 Saturday Jan 2015

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Liz. Invisalign still out.. Day 25. Still poorly and coughing, but now on my chest. I am wondering if it is now a chest infection. My voice comes and goes and I am very croaky, and I am quiet exhausted so taking it easy. I am not thinking teeth at all right now as did not hear back from my dentist yesterday or today which is rather disappointing – clearly not a priority to the folks in America.

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Coughing and spluttering through the day

15 Thursday Jan 2015

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Liz. Invisalign Day 23. Aligners still out and hoping the coughing, nausea and red throat will all calm down. I awoke in the night a few times coughing, and so had a broken night’s sleep and awoke tired. Today I coughed and spluttered through the day wondering is this is allergy or some sort of infection.  It is quite exhausting. The nausea just came on occasionally but it manageable. No cold symptoms at all so not something I have experienced before as normally any cough follows a heavy head cold. I did have a look online at lingual braces, and there is something now called the WIN system, but it looks horribly expensive, something to think about anyway if I have to have a complete change in approach. No news from my Dentist as he has not heard anything from the manufacturers which is rather disappointing….pause to cough………so hopefully some news tomorrow. I need to get back to normal health first however so whatever they offer everything has to be on pause for now. My dentist did say that is could be a sensitivity rather than an allergy which is is the case he said I would need to try very slow re introduction and see what I can tolerate.

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A horrible taste in my mouth…..

14 Wednesday Jan 2015

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Liz. Invisalign Day 22. Not much to report today…..aligners definitely NOT in my mouth until I hear back from the Dentist and Invisalign. I have felt nauseas  on and off today and feel that there is a bitter taste in my mouth and my throat is red but not painful. The hacking dry cough has pretty much stopped now they are out but I still feel the urge to retch occasionally – sorry but this is how it is. The smell of painting my nails this morning really set me off. I logged the issue with the duty Doctor at my local practice and they said to come in if things had not improved by Monday. Tomorrow I should hear back from Invisalign. Consoling myself with chocolate and cake whilst I can.

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Invisalign allergy?

13 Tuesday Jan 2015

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Liz. Invisalign Day 21. I woke up to more dry coughing and then hideous dry retching so out they came…..enough is enough, this cannot be right! I couldn’t face a train journey to work coughing and heaving. After the first two weeks of getting used to them this is SO frustrating.  I contacted my dentist again who is being really good and taking my concern seriously and he arranged to speak with a representative from Invisalign today. We agreed that I would not put them back in my mouth to see how my symptoms develop – from my perspective would they go? At the end of today I am still coughing and my throat is very red, and chest a little tight but the coughing has lessoned after 12 hrs with no aligners in. I googled “systemic allergy Invisalign” and was shocked to see a long list of problems people have experienced with allergies to Invisalign……….it does suggest my symptoms could well be allergic. It feels like a reaction to something very toxic.  Why on earth don’t they recommend some kind of initial allergy test!?!! My dentist spoke to someone at Invisalign at midday and passed on details of my reaction to the aligners and they are forwarding a report to their product safety advisor who will get back to him in a couple of days. They have advised my dentist that there is an option of having trays “processed differently”  – what does that mean exactly???? and why don’t they offer the option in the first place? If I can get them in the next few weeks that would be helpful. If I still react then I will have to terminate treatment with the aligners.  I am sitting here with mixed feelings, glad to have them out of my mouth but disappointed I am not moving forward on my teeth journey and worried about what I do if this is not a viable option for me. With no aligners in I assume my teeth could move again. Right now I just want to feel back to my healthy self.

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Coughing galore……a bad day.

12 Monday Jan 2015

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Liz. Invisalign Day 20. Today was a tough day, I coughed a dry stratchy cough from dawn until dusk, and as my voice began to fail me, I decided to email my dentist with my worries. I am sure it is a reaction to either the trays or the Retainer Brite. During the afternoon it was so bad, I took out the bottom tray which gave me almost instant relief. Right now I feel disappointed and worried about the implications are. My dentist was quick to respond to my concerns and told me to stop immediately wearing the trays that had been soaked in the Retainer Brite, and rule that out straight away, and then go on to try the next set of trays. I could not get home fast enough and spend some time washing in plain water the third set before putting them in. An hour later……same problem, horrendous dry cough, and my body wants the bottom one OUT. The next 24hrs will be really important to me if I can stomach these. My dentist is going to ask about the option of Hypoallergenic trays……it appears from other blogs this may be an option. We will see. Right now I am really fed up. This is not a problem I saw coming.

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Should I worry about a cough?

11 Sunday Jan 2015

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Liz. Invisalign Day 19. I awoke with the same sore throat and the cough that started yesterday has worsened. I didn’t mention that I had two days this week of nausea, and I a little worried it is down the trays or the Retainer Brite. I also felt that I had burnt my tongue yesterday but had not eaten anything hot. I have just researched that Invisalign can cause allergies and I will need to be very vigilant. There seems to be posts on the internet suggested that there is a hypoallergenic option – this has not been offered to me and I would definately have taken it, as I have a number of sensitivities. This morning I felt I just had to get them out of my mouth as fast as possible. I am still coughing and will aim to put them in as off to play tennis and discuss braces progress.

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Lingual braces: train tracks – on the inside of your teeth

10 Saturday Jan 2015

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After 3 years of thinking (procrastinating?) and 3 orthodontists, my lingual braces were fitted on November 19, 2014.  I’m now eagerly and nervously anticipating my first 8-week wire-change on January 14.  The last 7 weeks have not been easy … but the amazing, exciting thing is that my teeth have straightened!  Really.  People have commented.

It’s not that my teeth are terrible.  The correction is ‘moderate’ and many people would question why I’m bothering.  It’s a case of stopping the rot.  My teeth used to be straight but have become a little crowded (ever so gradually during my 40’s) and I don’t want them to worsen.  I’m aiming to grow old as gracefully as is possible!

BEFORE

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AFTER (12-14 months later)

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Why lingual? … since the cost is double Invisalign.  4 reasons.  ONE  You can’t see a thing, they’re on the inside of your teeth.  TWO  I eat and drink constantly, little and often, so Invisalign would be going in and out the whole time. That would be hassle, potentially exacerbate gum recession and offer an easy way for me not to wear them enough.  THREE  I’m a clencher and feeling the Invisalign trays on my teeth would make me clench and grind even more.  (That’s what happened when I used similar trays designed to stop me clenching  –  it made it worse.)  FOUR  Lingual is quicker than Invisalign and the orthodontist has more ability to control the forces being applied.

Fitting was time-consuming (2 hours-ish) but not painful.  Glue is applied to each tooth, the tray containing the row of metal brackets is affixed, the tray is removed leaving the brackets on each tooth (12 each on top and bottom) and then the wire is fed through the loops on each bracket.  I have super-sensitive teeth and cannot tolerate cold air or water, so was nervous (the teeth have to be clean and dry for the glue to take).  I was massively relieved that I tolerated the fitting well.  Hurrah!  I’ve read that sometimes the bottom brace is fitted first and then the top some weeks later.  I had both done together  –  seemed sensible to just suffer once.

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